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[Sharlin]

I totally agree.

[Servo]

On a side note, why do you think Lucas the company care so much what they're authors can and can't write about when GL states himself that he doesn't consider anything else true canon unless he has put it on screen. He has said something to the effect "There's EU Star Wars and there's My Star Wars". Strange that.

GL is the best, AND the worst, thing to happen to SW.

Yes, the whole thing is Lucas' baby, but I despise how the man is narcissistic enough to believe he's the only one who can contribute to the story in a meaningful way.

Seconded.  I will always respect a creator's right to go back and 'tweak' things that didn't come out like he originally planned... but at the same time the creator needs to be mindful of the following that the released form has gained. 

In other words, he/she should know when to leave well enough alone.

And GL either hasn't realized this or just doesn't care.

[Sharlin]

Seconded.  I will always respect a creator's right to go back and 'tweak' things that didn't come out like he originally planned... but at the same time the creator needs to be mindful of the following that the released form has gained. 

In other words, he/she should know when to leave well enough alone.

And GL either hasn't realized this or just doesn't care.

I think doesn't care is the answer too that question

[LokoLobo]

GL created StarWars, and it was a fantastic creation. I know he does his best to hold on to it with an iron fist (being how huge of a cash cow it has become). But I think the Starwars world has gotten bigger then GL, it has grown past anything even he could have created alone. With that said, I don't adhear to some of the limitations (limited vision, or controled enviroment) that GL has put on Starwars. I would rather like to see the posibilities, other peoples imagination and creativity added to such a great creation, with the only limitation being that it stayed true to the original concept.

[RhoZhin]

Ok, so someone made an interesting point.  The scene in RotS where Anakin is killing the jedi children is probably the most artistic scene in the entire trilogy.  It is also the only scene where an outside force said to GL "You have a limitation on what you can do."  Because you know someone had to say to him at some point "You can't actually show him just outright slaughtering 5 year olds, that would not be ok Mr. Lucas."  Also, keep in mind that the original trilogy was made under heavy pressure and restrictions from the people above him.   Its almost as if his genius doesn't work unless someone is restricting him. O_o 

That being said, I think Rex would have defied the order, perhaps to the point of actually shooting whoever was in command there and ordering the rest of the forces there to stand down, or hiding the fact that the order was given in the first place.  Realistically, there would likely be a large number of clone troopers rebelling against the order.  Heck, I could even see a small scale "civil war" among clones with the rebels trying to get the jedi to safety in direct defiance of the order.

[50Stone]

Such as the crews of the MedStar ships.

I would find it hard to believe that clones would gun down the Jedi aboard the Medical Frigates that had spent weeks and months amongst them healing them and tending them and they're brothers.

The problem though is that the two apparently canon sources, the Clone Wars cartoon series supervised by Lucas and the Films contradict each other, the cartoon is more explicit in it's portrayl of clones as being individuals while the film never goes near the subject but has them act rather robot like to the sudden orders, it's hard to accept both.

[LokoLobo]

I think in this case you also have to keep in mind who the donor was for the clones...
I don't see the clones as being good or evil.. they are just doing the job of a solder.. Doing what they are ordered to do.. the first duty of a solder...
Jango Fet being the person he was, himself didn't really care about right or wrong, good or bad, his duty was the contract, what ever it might be at the time.. and well I think the same thing would go for the clones... 
Yes Rex worked close with the Jedi, but as a good solder he was doing the best job he could, and part of a good job was building a realationship with the jedi, only to be a better more effective solder.
As a Starwars RPGer I do understand that the clones do have there own mind, and some of them actually did disert.. But in all I think when oder 66 came down, the clones that were striving to be good solders would have followed through with it, including Rex....

[50Stone]

The British army and to a lesser extend the US army (joke) has a fair number of "good soldiers" are you saying that if told they would execute all their officers without warning? I think you have to agree the answer is a big fat NO!

A good soldier uses his or her brain, yes they often follow orders that may lead to their own harm, assaulting a gun position etc, but that comes down to them putting their own lives on the line, not taking a colleagues for no apparent reason.

There is some lines in the novel of the film that suggested some of the clones had conditioning or genetic modification that made them obedient, but I don't believe that made the films and is also countered somewhat by both on screen and cartoon evidence, it's just a whole kettle of contrary evidence that shows little or no forethought in my opinion.

On the whole I feel that Clones such as Rex and those with close ties to Jedi, having served and accepted them would question the order, that might have meant other lesser troops doing it in their place of course. The more independent a thinker the clone is, usually the higher ranked, commandos and ARCs, the more likely they would see the order as wrong and attempt to assist their Jedi comrades.

It would have taken 20 seconds of on screen for Cody to receive the order, say but sir... and a subordinate officer to take over and issue the orders, it would have been way more believable.

[Caled85]

I haven't read the novelizations, and I don't watch TV, so I haven't seen the cartoon, so I may be way off. Aren't the Jedi often officers in the Republic army? If that's true, I'm not sure how any clones killed any Jedi, unless they were genetically modified to obey palps orders no matter what. A soldier doesn't shoot his commander, so I don't see any Jedi in the field being killed by clones in the first place.

PS. I haven't even seen the prequels for a long time (I try to avoid them) so I may be waaay off.

[RhoZhin]

Well, Palpatine was commander in chief at this point, and this was all his brainchild.  I mean, it would take only the most minor of conditioning to instill order 66 as overriding normal chain of command.

[colonel_kent]

My take, based on the movie alone, as I haven't seen the much of the cartoon or read the book, is that Order 66 was one of a series of contingency plans that Palpatine put in place to further cement his rule over the Republic after the army was created.  I'd be willing to bet that a series of Orders were set up to order the deaths of prominent senators, or even the entire senate.  And others would have been set up to kill various members of the Jedi Council, or all of them, but leave the rest of the order intact to be corrupted at the Sith lord's leisure.  The planning required would be quite impressive, probably involving years of effort and deceit, only to culminate in a few keystrokes and a brief holonet message sent to the various clones involved.

Given the characters involved, I would guess that Palpy used a series of deep conditioning drugs, hypnotic suggestions, and possibly an unknown sith techniques, delivered by a series of secret agents in the army's medical corps, delivered to those clones that he felt he could count on to follow the orders of those who were directly involved in his plans, or also conditioned to obey his order to murder their commanders.  Rex, from what I know about him, would not have been included in Palpy's scheming, assuming he was alive at the time Order 66 was put into effect.  I don't know as much about Cody, but he was apparently more amenable to taking Palpy's orders, or at least to killing Obi-Wan and the other Jedi.

And to add another wrinkle or two (no pun intended), how did the newly disfigured Palpy not get challenged by the troops he gave the order to?  Even with the hood up on his robe to hide his face, his voice sounds different, and it's a fair assumption that a voiceprint ID would fail.  The only explanation I have is that the computer added some sort of authenticator codes to the outgoing transmission that were accepted by the individual trooper's communicators and passed on to the troopers.

[LokoLobo]

OK.. I just saw a season 2 epesode of clone wars where Rex was wounded and was left at a farm to recover. This farm being that of a clone that diserted.. Rex said it was his duty to report him, but then said because of his injury he might not remeber too..
So after seeing that epesode I don't think Rex would turn on the Jedi..

[50Stone]

And the Clone deserter obviously had enough free will to leave the army, no hint of obedience conditioning to be found!

[chris0013]

I keep coming back to this...I read somewhere that the clone commanders took on the traits of their Jedi generals....Cody was by the book like Obi-Wan was.....however with Anakin being a bit of a maverick I see Rex taking on that sort of personality.  He would disobey order 66 and would try to protect Ahsoka.

[Tyranneix]

There is also the point that Rex may not be alive at the point of Order 66.  The clone commander with Anakin was Commander Appo (he tells Bail Organa that he needs to leave and is then attacked by a padawan in the movie).  So who knows.